MIGRATE: Notes of first
meeting
Dates: 8-11 March 2007
Location:
Participants (contact information in appendix)
Lead investigators
Jeff Kelly –
Sarah Mabey –
Frank Moore -
James A. Smith - NASA
Tom Smith - UCLA
Collaborators
Stuart Bearhop –
Carroll Belser –
Keith Bildstein –
Isabella Bisson –
Gabriel Bowen –
Melissa Bowlin –
Jeff Buler –
Antonio Cellis –
Jill Deppe –
Robb Diehl –
Linda Fink –
Adam Fudickar –
Sid Gauthreaux –
Chris Guglielmo –
Sue Haig –
Keith Hobson – Canadian Wildlife Service
Darren Irwin –
Alex Jahn –
Eileen Kirsch – USGS
Tom Kunz –
Keith Larson – Klamath Bird Observatory
Astalfo Mata – Instituto Venezolano de Investigaciones Cientificas
Ryan Norris –
Jackie Parrite –
Kristina Paxton –
Doug Robinson –
Judy Shamoun-Baranes – Universiteit van Amsterdam
Susan Skagen –
Fernando Spina – Instituto Nazionale per la Selvatica
Caz Taylor –
Kasper Thorup –
Len Wassemaar – Environment
David Winkler –
Michael Wunder –
Reporter: Ellen Paul – Ornithological Council
See MIGRATE website at
http://www.migrate.ou.edu/index.htm
for a full list of collaborators.
MAY 8
INTRODUCTORY MATTERS
Research Coordination Networks
J. Kelly – explained the purpose and restrictions of an NSF
Research Coordination Network. The Network can’t fund research but can fund all
the activities around it so the group needs to decide what they want to do –
what are the most important questions that need to be answered. The networking
began about five years ago with informal discussions <see http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=11691&org=NSF&sel_org=NSF&from=fund
for information about the Research Coordination Networks in Biological Sciences
grants>
S. Mabey – The NSF RCN is designed to create the amorphous entities
that bring people together to generate ideas and is interested in more than
single ideas. All the collaborators are dreaming about how to track birds
across space and time. It is compelling and exciting and will push forward work
in ecology, evolution, and conservation. What made this proposal stand out were
some of the subtle aspects of the program that NSF wants to promote. When the
principal invesigators were drafting the proposal they paid close attention to
NSF’s program goals, including opportunities to enhance education – undergrad
and grad training not just in ecology but across disciplines. The idea is to
pull together ecologists, biomathemeticians, biochemists, etc and give students
the tools they need to succeed as scientists in today’s environment. This is a
major goal of this RCN and they hope to start developing training courses as
soon - as possible but certainly over the next five years – to give students
exposure to and training in techniques across fields.
Another idea is that network will evolve over time. It is
meant to be dynamic, not stay static over time. Membership should evolve and
grow over the five years.
It is also important to include underrepresented groups and
the RCN will look to fields other than ecology may have greater mix of people.
When writing the proposal the principal investigators thought about how the
host institutions could feed into this goal – e.g.,
These components probably gave this proposal an edge. It is
important to think about how to build these components as they move into
discussions.
J. Smith – recommended that if collaborators visit NSF, they
visit the program manager (Peter McCartney, Biological Infrastucture – e-mail =
biorcn@nsf.gov, phone = 703 292-8470) and
say a few good words.
Review of agenda
Wednesday 8 May
Session I: Identify the “big questions” in bird migration
(starts at page 5)
Session II: Dicuss the pros, cons of focusing on certain
species, groups (starts at page 15)
Thursday 9 May
Session III: Technologies for tracking (starts at page 24)
Session IV: Analytical challenges – how to bring together
(starts at page 35)
Saturday 10 May
Morning - Time for collaborations that form during
conference to sit and talk about what they want to do together
Session V: Afternoon – figure out how the network infrastructure will work – committees who will decide who will do what, what the training courses will look like, who will teach, where held, how to enhance existing courses, governance issues (who does what, tenure)
(Starts at page 39)
Sunday 11 May
Session VI: What next for the coming year? What sort of products are reasonable to try for?
(Starts at page XX)
SESSION I: BIG
QUESTIONS IN BIRD MIGRATION
The PIs anticipate that the projects that develop from the MIGRATE RCN will fall into one of these four big categories:
Evolutionary
Ecological
Conservation
Anthropocentric
Discussion
K. Hobson: does NSF require a product – e.g., a report
J. Kelly: Expectations are the same for any NSF grant; the PIs
have to show that they have supported activities that support grant proposals
submitted and that support scientific publications, but there is no specific
requirement of a written product
S. Mabey: We do need to have the infrastructure ready to go
by Sunday so PIs can report to NSF how the network will operate. NSF needs a
tangible product and the RCN should track things like grant proposals and
papers generated out of this meeting; should also write up things like training
proposals
J. Smith: The RCN is really an enabler of science, so useful
products would also include things like special sessions at scientific
meetings. Keep the NSF program manager well-informed and invite him to meetings.
K.
Paxton: To what extent does the education mandate go beyond courses for
undergrads and grads - does it also include K-12, training?
S. Mabey: They proposed undergrad and grad courses –
intensive experience with field techniques in field ecology and biomaps,
engineering, wireless sensor networks, ecology, biochem. It was envisioned as an
intensive, cross-disciplinary course for students but others could participate.
They also proposed lab exchange visits so one person could go to another
university to learn another technique; the RCN can fund that and it includes
the RCN participants though the bulk of the resources are for students. They
also included public education/outreach -such as citizen science – as an avenue
for teaching (e.g., how to collect data for network-sponsored activities) but
also to get information out to the general public. Unfortunately, people in
this network are not well connected to existing migration projects.
S. Gauthreaux: What is the anthropocentric aspects of the
issue?
J. Kelly: Issues such as bird collisions with aircraft.
These may not be conservation issues, but it pertains to any issues involving
humans.
S. Gauthreaux: Does citizen science come under that heading,
e.g., developers of wind farms have no idea that most migration takes place at
night. Would this be considered education?
S. Mabey: Education crosses the categories
J. Kelly: That is for the RCN to decide – these are
categories to start with but the RCN
will decide how to organize itself.
D. Winkler: Another kind of anthropocentric activity would
be using migratory birds as a way to attract people to educational activities –
particularly the “amazing” migrants such as Blackpoll Warblers or Bar-tailed
Godwits.
Breakout groups
J. Kelly: Charge to
breakout groups - the overarching question is this: in the next five years, if
you had better ability to track your migrants, over their entire lives, what questions
would you ask first?
- What is the state of the knowledge regarding that question
now?
- Where are the cutting edges?
- What are the critical data that are needed (about
individuals, populations, particular parameters)?
- How does this network fit into that?
- Define success of the network (not for individual
investigators, but what did the network do to help get this knowledge or
improve the ability to get this knowledge).
Full group brainstorm
session preceded breakout to identify major questions
K. Hobson: What
factors affect ultimate fitness of individuals throughout their migratory cycle
– what happens at one point of that cycle that affects lifetime fitness
Speaker?:
What factors limit or regulate populations
D. Robinson: When do birds die? Post-fledging survival is a
big unknown, annual survival.
S. Gauthreaux: We
need to also know where and how bird die.
I. Bisson: We should be tracking partially migratory species
to see if they can change that strategy based on environmental factors
S. Bearhap: We need
to identify the extrinsic and intrinsic factors, e.g. correlation between
selection and fitness. What factors result from intrinsic qualities of
individuals vs. habitat quality?
D. Robinson: Plasticity of migration - so we can address responses of birds to
climate change.
D. Winkler: There are two fundamental operational questions
– where is bird when throughout annual cycle and aspects of its state at each point
(localization and state). This information would allow us to answer the larger
questions.
D. Irwin: When 2 groups of highly divergent migrants come
together, where do the hybrids go?
J. Parrite: What is the best conservation strategy to
protect migratory bird populations? Where should we be preserving land and how
much?
L. Wassemaar: Where do birds come from and where do they go?
E. Kirsch: How much
mortality can we influence and how much is beyond our reach e.g., weather-related?
S. Haig: Compare migrants w/ residents that occupy the same
space in time, to get ideas of limiting factors for each (of same species).
M. Bowlin: How and
why does migration evolve? Look at migrants and residents. of same species to
get at that question.
S. Gauthreaux: Tease apart dispersal movements from
migration and how they might be linked, if at all.
S. Bearhop: Nonconspecifics
are of interest, too, especially on wintering grounds, because resident fauna
interact with the migrants.
S. Skagen: Is there a threshhold beyond which the plasticity
can’t allow the birds to deal with a given challenge? Example: intensity of
diet changes on wintering grounds and interactions with similar resident
species
J. Shamoun-Baranes: How to use tracking and how it will get
at some of these questions – won’t get at individual interactions so what other
techniques are needed.
R. Norris: Optimizing habitat conservation decisions –
conservation plans might otherwise make wrong choices.
K. Hobson: From a conservation perspective we need to know
spatial pattern of young of year production – where are they produced
(spatially). Isotopes can fingerprint where they are coming from and which
habitats.
I. Bisson: We need more information about tropical (austral) migration systems.
S. Haig: Where birds find their mates – what stage of the
annual cycle, what point in life?
R. Diehl: How birds behave in the air – responses to
weather, geographic barriers.
J. Kelly: Migratory
strategies, e.g., how much time in flight and how that might change.
J. Deppe: Focus on fall migration – time limits, energy
limits – might get at strategies e.g., how long at stopover sites.
S. Skagen: An emerging question in the West – are there
specific sites for molting stages?
S. Gauthreaux: Site fidelity w/ respect to sites along
migration routes – how constant over multiple seasons do birds use the same
routes and stopover areas?
J. Kelly: Think about to what extent this network ought to
be interested in taxa other than birds and what commonalities are uniform about
long distance movement.
J. Parrite: What answers would be most valuable in trying
teach migration to people who are not scientists about the value and importance
of bird migration.
K. Thorup: Tracking gives us a unique opportunity to follow
individuals. To date it has been population level but tracking allows us to get
at the individuals that make up the population.
Understanding intrinsic v. extrinsic factors necessary to
figure out what we can/cannot do to respond
C.
Guglielmo: How do you measure intrinsic factors – physiological v.
behavioral and how to measure constraints – what technologies can be used?
S. Mabey: Tracking individuals and offspring also allows us
to study genetics.
D. Winkler: Individual-level data will allow us to reconstruct
what birds have experienced in the environment during their travels – there are
physiological constraints and information constraints (what the animal can know
and how it can use that information to respond)
K. Bildstein:
T. Kunz: Bring in atmospheric scientists who can model the
extrinsic factors – this has been overlooked and should be integrated despite
problems of scale (e.g., Google Earth, air masses and currents). Scale is very
important because to answer questions about state of bird at point in time,
space requires info about the environment at those places and times
S. Gauthreaux: What does “tracking” imply?
J. Kelly: He means it as some probabilistic understanding of
where an individual is at some point in its life. It can include real-time GPS
or satellite tracking to intrinsic marker of a location.
S. Gauthreaux: Or it can mean a band on a leg and a network
of observatories.
J. Kelly: Different data permit different inferences.
K. Hobson: What factors affect ultimate fitness of
individuals throughout their migratory cycle – what happens at one point of
that cycle that affects lifetime fitness? What factors regulate populations?
Organizing breakouts
to discuss big questions in bird migration
Groups (organized by numbering off) should discuss:
1 - Population dynamics (ecological, conservation
perspectives)
2- Individual fitness
3- Evolution of behavior in migration – plasticity v.
constraints (evolutionary history) and how they respond over ecological
timeframes to changes. This can have different perspectives, including:
Population v. individual
Environments through which animals move
Applications/conservation
4- Interaction w/ environment (habitat, landscape,
atmospheric). Consider these aspects:
In flight v. on ground
Pre, post, during
migration phases of annual cycle
Final instructions to breakout groups (J. Kelly):
Each of the six breakout groups was asked to discuss all
four topics and identify the most pressing research topics
Breakout reporting
Group 1
1.
Migration Plasticity (lump with # 3, also
Global Climate Change)
a. In flight: Need to know mortality, patterns across time and space
(longitude/latitude/altitude)
b. How quickly can populations adapt to change? particularly with respect
to migratory pathways and patterns
c. What are the anthropogenic effects on migration patterns?
d. Need to be able to follow individuals on migration
e. Need to understand how different populations react to these conditions
to understand plasticity potential—need to be able to address these questions
for populations across the species range
2.
Evolution of Migration Behavior
a. How quickly can you see a response in individuals/populations?
b. Can individuals develop new plasticity?
c. Need to have enough time for genetics to change in population, for selection
to operate.
d. How is migration evolving now?
Why?
e. Understand the effects of climate change on migration.
f.
What are commonalities among taxa (avian
and other) in migration patterns/strategies, etc.
3.
Mortality – where/how do birds die?
a. Link estimates of productivity and mortality per population in space
and time.
b. Link above to what is going on climatically
c. Determine what age/sex/phase of the annual cycle mortality occurs.
d. How is it related to land cover and change?
4.
Population Connectivity/Disease
Transmission
a. Need to understand migration patterns to understand DT.
b. Need to understand if migratory birds actually transmit disease to
humans.
c. Need to understand population connectivity throughout the annual cycle.
5.
Effect of human-induced habitat change on
-
a. Stopover sites
b. Productivity and survival
6. Potential products from MIGRATE:
a. Review paper summarizing what is known about what has been learned about the effects of global climate change on birds (and other taxa) with associated searchable/updated database
b. Review paper summarizing what we know about population connectivity throughout the annual cycle and how it could effect disease transmission with associated searchable/updated database
c. Technology development
d. Data sharing
Group 2
a. Does most
mortality take place during migration?
b. What is the
annual pattern of mortality and how does it change from year to year?
c. Mortality detection: Heart-rate
transmitters, temperature sensors, motion detectors
d. What is the importance of weather vs.
other causes?
e. Residents, facultative and obligate
migrants….
f. Interaction of dispersal and migration
g. Annual patterns of mortality require refining distinctions between different phases
of movement (esp. dispersal vs.
migration).
a. What is the relative role of adaptation and constraint in effecting individual patterns and processes of individual movements?
b. What are the effects of age on migratory performance, how long do they last and are there senescence effects?
c. What is the biological basis of individual and age-related differences in performance?
d. How do differences in migration distance and proximity to goal influence migratory tactics?
e. How do individual level changes relate to population mean differences as emergent properties?
f. How do differences in wintering and staging areas and timing influence the timing of migration and return?
g. How do the timing of migration and return relate to fitness differences on the breeding grounds?
h. How do challenges during migration affect timing and fitness? Great opportunity for experiments?
i. What is the optimal quantity of data to be gathered to answer our questions? How much data is too much?
j. Very important to develop articulations with environmental variation at many scales and many data sources.
k. How do we deal with the bioinformatics challenge of doing statistics and inference—radar data as an example, but we need data standards and AI-like data analysis tools.
l. Which of the following variable have the most promise for monitoring state? heart rate, skin temperature, mass or wing-loading…
m. Is hypothermia a part of migrant’s energy management strategy.
(Problem with heart-rate is variation in organ size (hearts get 30% bigger))
These raise the possibility of
really realistic experiments, manipulations of state directly or translocation
to different habitats—looking at how movement responds…
heterogeneous populations
of movement?
GROUP 3
– I have no notes from Group 3!
GROUP 4
- Links between stages in annual cycle are poorly understood.
-
Ability to track individuals is not
possible for many species.
- Technologies to track individuals.
-
Sequencing more of the genome of
different species.
- Year-long data
- Ability to measure threats.
- Meshing physiology and ecology at the individual level.
-
Choosing a model species for each
question.
Further questions:
E. Kirsch: What stage of the annual cycle is most affected
by anthropogenic change?
R. Norris: What are the extrinsic vs. intrinsic factors
affecting population size (similar to Stuart’s question)?
Group 5
MAPS stations, coupled with migration monitoring data, we can test ideas about productivity between areas that are producing more birds and are we just capturing more of those?
Group 6
A product of all questions could be - How do we conserve
migrants?
a. general questions
- Can we identify the demographic units of migratory animals?
- What is the state and location of an individual during its annual routine?
- What is the
relative role of plasticity and constraints in migration?
- This can be
addressed on different time and space resolutions.
- Pull together the different
pieces of the puzzle at different scales in space and time (immediate –
evolutionary)
b. specific questions
- Identify where and when they are vulnerable during the annual cycle
- How do we keep track of how are populations doing
- Where do we protect migrants
- How variable is their behavior
- How representative are the individuals of the population
- Population information – using other techniques
a. Educate ourselves – training –
statistics, modeling and database
b. Technological
advances
c. Database
development (e.g., Avian knowledge network – Cornell)
d. Synthesis papers for example –
added value of integrating different research approaches
a. Combining expertise to advance
technology
b. Answer
certain questions
c. Target
taxa
d. Database repositories
a. Remote sensing is an important
issue
b. Identify influence of land use
changes
Wrap up (J. Kelly): Everyone will get copy of these notes and the PIs will try to pull together commonalities.
SESSION II: VALUE OF USING MODEL SPECIES: WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN AND WHAT MIGHT THOSE SPECIES BE?
J. Smith: Is there a downside to selecting model species? Is
it a given that we would take that approach?
F. Moore: Presentation – conceptual and logistical issues
Discussion
F. Moore: What are we trying to model?
C. Guglielmo: What
genes are turned on prior to migration to enable the physiological or
behavioral changes that comprise migration – endocrinological changes of the
nonmigrants or close relatives could be studied
D. Winkler: A discussion of genomics is fine but for
migration, we should consider something like obligates v. facultative migrants
and ecologically relevant issues. Fundamentally, it has to be a species that
produces a lot of information.
S. Skagen: Supports model species approach and could develop
examples of wealth of information that could help demonstrate to agencies that
they need to consider other species for funding rather than just the declining
species. By definition, those are not the ones that necessarily need to be
studied. It is better to study the common species so we can understand the
fundamental mechanisms – and focus on basic biology, not the interdisciplinary
approach – the bigger the approach, the less you can do.
K. Hobson: Model species will work, especially where there
is a network. Choose abundant species that are representative of different
strategies (e.g., long vs. short distance), body size. Avoid “indicator species” approach – keep
those shortcomings in mind – they chose the wrong species as indicators e.g., Ovenbird
as old growth species in Canadian forests when it turns out that their habitat
requirements are very broad. If you don’t know a lot about the organism in advance,
you can choose the wrong one. Depending on the question, you may be better off
choosing a community of birds.
R. Norris: Collaborative effort needed. Altruism is needed
and you might not get your choice of model species. Need to pick a species that
everyone can take something from and should be determined by two broad
questions – population dynamics and evolutionary aspects of migration. May need
more than one, e.g., one songbird, one shorebird…to get adequate and applicable
generalities.
S. Gauthreaux: We already have model species, e.g., Red
Knot, where there has been a tremendous amount of work. If we looked for
existing model species, we would find a number of them. We don’t want ALL
research funding going to a small suite of species to the exclusion of research
on questions that are not species-driven. So make list and see how much
agreement there is.
F. Spina: Could be interesting to model systems rather than
species – with wide array of species. Interspecific analysis and comparisons
are really very important to understand general rules and strategies. For
instance, compare migration across
S. Haig: Could we have a model approach rather than a model
species? The issues are more important than studying a few species. Any group
of people could use model species if they wanted to but the focus should be on
the questions.
A. Jahn: From austral perspective, there are many species
that migrate in the opposite direction, so researchers in Southern Hemisphere
need to be included.
J. Shamoun-Baranes: An advantage of model species, if you
have enough information, is to develop a strong model and then test it. The
Western Sandpiper project was chosen because of logistical ease e.g., studying
wintering, breeding, migration stopover sites. But this is a 5-year effort
(MIGRATE) and the question is whether those in the network want to work with
model species, not what others want to do. Having a model species (or several)
may help those in the network to make more progress.
S. Bearhop: Can’t shoehorn every question onto a given model
species. There is value in defining migration systems of interest, e.g.,
limited, discrete stopovers vs. wide choice of stopover sites, or those that
migrate over water vs. over land.
S. Mabey: She has reservations about using species models
because of the extensive variation BUT some of the issues may be well-served by
the model species approach – population dynamics may be studied through models
whereas plasticity and other issues, not as much.
T. Smith: How will we identify species a priori and get people to work on them when everyone has their own interests? The question - is among what collaborators are working on, are there species everyone can agree on? The exception is genomics where having a single species is useful, e.g., species with migratory and nonmigratory populations – and this will lead to approaches for other species.
Migratory systems approach is valuable given international
character of the group but the challenge is to choose the questions that will
be enabled when we can track individual birds.
We can’t all get all the information to understand migration. This group can get at an understanding of only one small part of a question – others will work on other parts – so it may be necessary to choose a species for which there is already good information to maximize chances of getting the understanding you seek
F. Moore: This is part of the attribute of a good model
species – that a certain amount of knowledge is already available that may be
relevant to the conceptual issues of interest.
J. Kelly: In preparing the proposal they looked at the model
species issue. He can see long-term benefit to picking a few species to
emphasize. People are still free to work on whatever they want. Having a lot of
information on a few species may give researchers leverage for their own
research programs – perhaps to extend to comparisons with other species. It
isn’t clear to reviewers why every proposal deals with a different species and
doesn’t build on what has already been done.
Young investigators who are starting to shape their research
programs may want to choose the model or focal species identified by a group
like this RCN.
R. Diehl: Do we know enough to choose model species
intelligently? We know a lot about some and a little about most. That they have
received a lot of attention doesn’t mean that they are good models, even if we
benefit from all that knowledge. But we don’t know enough to choose across a spectrum.
If this group endorses a model or set of models, it will foster interest among
new grad students and young faculty and provide strong leverage for funding for
those species.
D. Winkler: When you start replicating research, you find
that there are differences across the species’ range so it really helps to know
limits of generalizations and to identify variability.
R. Norris: This doesn’t dictate that everyone work on the
models and give up their own interests. This is in addition to what everyone
else is doing. Without models, we can’t really understand movement, population
dynamics, causes of migration if all working independently and without model
species. Look at it as a group proposal. When someone works on one species,
others tend to think “that’s their turf” and some avoid working on what others
are working on. Advantage of coming together is in part to get past that
turfiness issue and work collaboratively.
Potential model species
– discussion of attributes
Speaker?:
These are just suggestions and were chosen because we know something about
migration for these species and we might be able to get more knowledge about
migration if we study these. The idea is to complete a matrix (see separate
Xcel spreadsheet) for each of the suggested species, as to whether enough is
known or not for each attribute.
Attributes
Distance
Life history
Geographical distribution
Size/mass – ability to mark
Ability to track
Adequate population size
Catachability
Hold in captivity?
Breed in captivity
Polytypic variation
ageing and sexing potential
nocturnal/diurnal
differential migration among facultative species
facultative v. obligate
do we know the phylogeny
conservation concern/potential for funding
international aspects
north-south vs. other
over water via over land
flight strategy – soaring vs. active
Pattern and processes
Isotope work
Genetic markers
Population modeling
Orientation
Stopover biology
Breeding biology
wintering biology
molt
connectivity
good for genomics
good for population dynamics
good for evolution questions
Where are there blanks in the matrix
Are these all the considerations we need to think about?
This matrix helps to determine if we know enough about a
given species to consider it as a model – no point in choosing something we don’t
know much about – all that are on list meet the standards but there are others
that probably qualify
Added species: Black-throated Blue Warbler, White-crowned
Sparrow, Osprey, Sandhill Crane
Realistically the model has to be limited to one species so
some of these attributes may be more important than others – or the species
that meets more of the criteria than others
Some species on the list are more appropriate for population
dynamics and others for evolution of migration
S. Mabey: This is just a tool for identifying candidates and
narrowing down the list of candidates. For comparative studies, life history
strategies are important, so you might need two – one for comparison to the
model species.
J. Smith: The most important attribute(s) may depend on the
specific question you are asking.
Is it more important to have taxa that are species rich – if
you want to look at microevolutionary questions?
Added: Peregrine Falcon and Osprey - both found in
Does tracking mean through space/time OR through
observations at banding stations – and it has to be year-round tracking but
tracking on wintering grounds is very difficult
Have to score, can’t use yes/no measures for each attribute
K. Hobson: Can just do +/- in each box in the green attributes
boxes.
F. Moore: Some that will be both e.g., nocturnal and diurnal. Life history is hard to score and we might need subcategories – life span, first age of reproduction.
Speaker?:
We can send this out to colleagues for additional feedback.
Speaker?:
Would be very hard to send out, get people to respond, analyze answers – can
just test it through subgroup comparisons w/ the participants here to be sure
they know what the categories mean
K. Hobson: What other species are similar to those we do know
about so we can do comparisons? That is also important. He’d rather do
comparisons OR start using the info we have to start answering questions. More
important question is what are the limits of techniques – e.g., stable isotopes
are only good for latitudinal migrants. And also if someone else is doing a lot
of work on a species, and is likely to continue doing so, why not start
elsewhere? More interesting question is how similar other species are? Do we
need to know more about Snow Geese or about other large-bodied waterfowl?
Speaker?:
RCN is supposed to foster integrative and interactive research and having
species that we know a lot about makes that easier. Comparative work is great
but for interactive work, you have to stick with species that are easy for
everyone to work with. We are charged with asking new questions and that means
using a model system.
Speaker?:
The RCN can launch studies on other species that are equally interesting as
those that are well-studied.
Speaker?:
Both approaches are needed. If you already have good carbon signature for
Redstarts on the wintering grounds, find it out for other species BUT for
integrative work, there needs to be model species so they can begin to ask new
questions that aren’t possible to attack individually. Even for Redstarts, we
have no ability to predict population changes, and have a long way to go to
understand connectivity.
J. Kelly: Were MIGRATE to endorse some model species for some purposes, would people feel that would negatively impact work on comparative species, e.g., others in the communities of the model species, or would people see it as a positive because they would have something to compare with?
Speaker?:
To avoid choosing wrong species, build in checks to be sure that doesn’t occur –
e.g., how broadly can this be applied to other birds? Is this species peculiar
(is it a good standard for comparison) or is it representative of its group? Avoid
notion that MIGRATE is going to say that research should focus on model
species. Researchers will come up with ideas and figure out best way to do it.
Only after we know what the questions are will we really know what the best
models are. We need more comparative research just to determine what the best
models are.
Speaker?:
Can’t populate the matrix unless you know what the research question is.
Maybe model species should be one approach and use
comparative approach for evolutionary questions.
The RCN isn’t trying to define an entire research program
for everyone, but just identify a suite of potential projects that people might
want to tackle.
Genomics is a tool, not a question. The question is do we have molecular markers. What does “perfect species for genomics” mean? We can sequence any species. The issue is why you need to know the genomic
SESSION III: TRACKING
TECHNOLOGIES
S. Mabey: The RCN proposal distinguished between intrinsic and extrinsic markers. The process for this session is to have breakout groups discuss classes of technologies such as: (isotopes, genetic markers, parasites).
Charge to breakout
groups
Within that framework, it might be best to mix people with
different knowledge sets and have them brainstorm. Or get the basic info for
each tech and then report, then do integrative discussion this afternoon. Also
important to link to species groups.
Technology classes to be discussed:
a. Intrinsic – isotopes & trace elements, genetic markers (of birds and of parasites and viruses) versus extrinsic – electronic = telemetry (radio and satellite), cell phone, acoustics, wireless sensor networks and radar, geolocators; physical = bands and other external markers, morphological characteristics, behavior.Split:
b. individual (e.g., acoustics, radar) vs. group (e.g., telemetry, cell
phone, wireless sensor networks)
Reports
from breakout groups
Isotope group
1.
State of technology
a. Hydrogen
(H) and oxygen (O2) isotopes
- Limitations of maps
- Small scale heterogeneity,
- Integrate a temporal component/climate event El Nino-Southern Oscillation
(ENSO), Southern Oscillation Index (SOI), North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO)
- Physiology of H & O2 isotopes integrated into map
models, parameterize maps by species.
- Amino acid synthesis (in humans) - assimilation rapid, equilibrates
more rapidly with body water. Combining H & O2 could help separate
physiology signal from environmental.
- Herbivores - leaves uptake ambient signal
most rapidly
- Effect of temperature
- Need dual isotope studies (H & O2)
- Mike’s approach of turning base maps into
probability of origin.
- Sampling for connectivity, within site variation = among site
variation low connectivity and vice versa. Saturated sampling, 30-40 birds per
site (min). One breeding site and one wintering site, huge effort…..
Probability based approaches require much less effort.
- Lack of reference materials…interlab
standards
- Appropriateness of the study organism, shallow rooted plants…subject
to more variability.
- Compare metabolically active tissues with inactive
- Resource use at a small scale…
- Appropriateness of question
- How accurate can we be?
- Individual physiology, error associated with
maps, regional variability
b. Carbon, Nitrogen ,
- Marine v terrestrial, C4 (Carbon
4) v C3 (Carbon 3)…………provenance
- Latitude…
-
Xeric v mesic consequences of habitat selection
- Capital versus income in fuelling of
migration/reproduction
- Study structure in marine environment
- Study trace
elements, multivariate space, problems of very local heterogeneity
- Shorebirds, estuarine inflow
(Strontium,
these?
- Trace elements preliminary investigations necessary. How stable are these, which
metals should be avoided. Geologists should be consulted.
- Compound-specific approaches - Individual amino Acids - compare essential vs.
non-essential, can unravel spatial and trophic
effects. Migrations of Tuna.
- Tracers, and CC could help answer physiological questions about H & O2 raised
above.
- Molt - Stable Isotope Analysis as a way inferring molt, consequences of molt
variation. Requires good information on molt
phenology in order to be able to make inferences
2.
MIGRATE could…
- As a group - carry out a series
of experiments to help facilitate the construction of a physiology based map.
- Training courses? Web pages based on
Gabe/Mike’s stuff?
- Possible paper and web advice “How
to properly use Stable Isotope Analysis to infer migratory origins”
- Tech transfer - Combining PTT, GPS information with molt and
Stable Isotope Analysis of feather tissue to validate base maps.
- Banding plus Stable Isotope Analysis……
bands recovery biases/effort, lumping groups, problems with making inferences.
Genetic markers breakout group
a. different markers appropriate for different questions and species
b. species with isolated breeding populations are best candidates for genetics techniques
c. potential for differentiating populations at finer scales…two populations at a contact zone may have similar isotopic signature but may be genetically polymorphic
d. provides information on geographic variation as well as evolutionary
processes….ultimately the genetic basis of migration (potentially, the genes
associated with migration)
a. sample collection across geographic regions (breeding and wintering ranges, on migratory routes) and sharing
b. resources for disseminating information from repositories
c. facilitate collaboration among labs utilizing different techniques to combine different markers
d. Available markers (see spreadsheet):
- mt DNA
- AFLP’s
(amplified length polymorphisms)
- SNIP’s (single
nucleotide polymorphisms)
- Microsatellites
Banding group
a. Standardization – of what to collect, how to record and report – significant problem particularly in the Neotropics; issue was addressed in US in 1993 but hasn’t been revisited since, isn’t complete, and there is real need to converse w/ Europeans, who also work in Neotropics and do things a different way – causes problems w/ training, standards being used on same birds – could be addressed by working with people in Neotropics, provide training or support others that do (eg Park Flight, NABC)
b. Lack of access to bands, coordinated numbers and prefixes
c. Reporting resightings, recaptures, recoveries – need to make it easy, e.g., web address on every band
d. Increase recapture/recovery rate – increase density of banders at strategically located stations that are geographically significant sites for migration – e.g., along southern US border where there is significant stopover
e. How existing data can be used in new ways, e.g., first/only capture data across a network of sites can be used to identify migratory routes for species – differential rates of first encounters across species (Ibis 1997)
f. Communications – of protocols, methodologies, trainings – sponsoring workshops or participating in existing workshops to bring to these groups the needs for certain kinds of data for migration studies, such as ageing
g.
Canadian Atlas based on band recoveries –
CWS 2001 – no effort like that has been undertaken in the
Discussion
J. Kelly: In terms of locating sites – what is value of
stratified random sites v. capture rate – are inferences limited if site
selection isn’t random?
K. Larson: In some places, you only have a certain number of
suitable locations from which to choose
J. Kelly: If you chose sites based on how many birds are
there, you can be missing suites of birds, e.g., those that use different
habitat
K. Larson: If you can’t get people to sit in those bird-poor
areas, or their capture rate is very low, is there really a value to even
trying there
C. Guglielmo: If you move around from one site to another,
you will eventually build up enough captures in each place.
F. Spina: Realize that you are dealing mostly with
volunteers who may not be willing to go certain places or go anywhere – but
they have developed ways to deal with the bias to some extent.
F. Moore: At the scale we are dealing with, it would be hard
to sample across all habitats/landscapes.
K. Larson – also might not be able to use mist nets in some
sites – that also complicates things
K. Hobson - you could
try to run a specific set of sites for 5 years and try to generate
the specific information you want
A. Celis: In Mexico, they have no volunteers – it is just
the researchers themselves and their students – makes coordination very hard –
it is small groups of researchers asking different questions and their methods
are designed specifically for the specific question
Electronics group
Generally: State of technology
Lots of people working on gadgets – including cell phone-based systems – changing very rapidly and will look very different in 5 years.
Technology: Wireless sensor networks
Transceivers with ranges of about 10 m are now 1.5 g.
Watch for developments.
Software for networking needs improvement
Energy source/battery developments
are needed.
Potentially great for behavioral ecology in localized areas.
MIGRATE could transfer this technology to many other field biologists.
Technology: RFID-PIT tags
Already deployed in lots of systems where animals reliably come within a meter or two
of a reader.
Need smaller less expensive readers.
Need extension of range of detection.
Great for lots of local behavioral ecological work but likely most important only for those
species that come very close to a reader. (Northstar was developing a cross-band
transponder whose transmission was elicited by radar. S. Skagen tested one and
will check into it for MIGRATE. Needs big radar and two 90 degree antennae on
the transponder.)
Technology: Digital tags
Localization
Real-time locality
information at different scales:
Short distances:
(less than 10 km) Available now in places like BCI.
Will be more widely available very soon for conventional tags (<.2 g).
Long distances - may be available soon via satellite monitoring of digital
tags (ICARUS).
GPS 10 g
available but need to get data.
Telemetry data
Position
Solar geolocation
GPS
Cell communication
State
Heartrate
Wing-beat frequency?
Temperatures
Respiration?
Accelerometer
Motion detector
Blood chemistry?
Altitude
Video/sound
Note: When mass is a problem, can jettison radio and have a
logger at saving in mass of about 25%....
Technology: Analog tags
Still very important
Wing-beat frequency
Respiration
Video/sound
Key problem is finding someone to develop given small quantity
demand
Technology: Radar
Existing
Technologies - successfully deployed
Integrated
networks of weather radar
NEXRAD
(
European
OPERA network (wind profilers – 5km)
Large scale surveillance
Military medium powered radar (
Mobile radar
Marine radar
Tracking radar (not readily
available)
NASA – Spandar
Harmonic radar – needs exploration
(applied to insects) – not too successful until now
Thermal imaging –
validation technology
Technology: Phased Array LIDAR
Emerging
technology
Information
provided
geographical
patterns (time and space)
vertical
distribution
relative
densities
species
groups (wing beat frequency)
heading
velocity
track
Taxon
Raptor
migration
Soaring
migration
Active
nocturnal migration (land)
Seabirds
Limitations
Cost (equipment,
personell – expertise)
Target identity
Relative numbers
Line of sight
Threshold – noise
Comparability of
different units
Need
standardization
Uncertainty –
pixel/echo interpretation
Validation
in the air
on the ground
Location – where
can it be stationed
Coverage (e.g. no
coverage in central and south
Improve Precision
Definition of
standards and protocols
Target validation
Target identification
Quantification
Smaller more
mobile units
Clutter filtering
Cross -
calibration
Access to raw
data (before processing)
Integration of
radar technologies
2. MIGRATE could…
a. Propose network of radar at NEON
installations
b. Promote standardization
c. Provide training
d. Coordination of workshop –
cross-calibration?
e. Definition of standards and
protocols
f. Special issue on radar research
3. Biological Applications & tech transfer to other
fields
a. Behaviour
around barriers
b. Identification
of important stopover areas
c. Influence
of weather on migration
d. Dispersal
of colonial species
e. Identification
of roost sites
f. Response
to anthropogenic structures
g. Flight
safety improvements
h. Migratory
patterns (corridors)
i. Foraging
studies
j. Improvement
of accuracy of meteorological measurements
Technology: Acoustics
Information provided
Species that vocalize
Throughout life cycle
Localization w/triangulation
(breeding and wintering)
Advantages
Relatively inexpensive
Creating networks
Limitations
Human interpretation (lack of
automation)
Range (0.5 km)
Validated on diurnal call notes
(uncertainty)
Lack of knowledge (on calling
behaviour – geographical, meteorology)
Uncertainty of relation between
acoustic survey and trapped birds
Improve Precision – Further
development
Taxonomic identification
Improve knowledge of calling
behaviour
Include microphone on transmitters
Algorithm development for call
identification
2. MIGRATE could….
Facilitate
development of monitoring networks
Education
and outreach, citizen science
Mobile
environmental units
Improve
communication of the acoustic community
Standardization
of information management
3. Biological Applications & transfer to other fields
Species composition
of migration
Geographic
variation of species composition
Monitoring breeding and wintering populations (similar systems)
Overall, MIGRATE could…
Improve development
Improve deployment
Database of different expertise –
contact information
Dynamic website where people can
register in a particular interest groups & activities
Development of interest groups
Discussion of information management systems
Discussion
K. Hobson: For acoustic monitoring, there is an issue of
detectability and how to correct for the
purpose of monitoring
S. Gauthreaux: There are lots of developments with marine
radar, in terms of digital processing of raw data. In a short time, we should
be able to track multiple birds up to six nautical miles – won’t know identity
but each track will help determine speed, heading – they are in the process of
validating the methods.
K. Hobson: Is there coordination of weather radar with
Canadians so we can do continental radar monitoring
S. Gauthreaux: The Canadian systems probably pick up birds
but their settings are very different and it is problematic to determine what
is bird.
R. Diehl: What is available to the public may not be useful
but the actual data are and could be used.
S. Gauthreaux: John Black is looking into this but he hasn’t
had an update – the issue is not unique to
C. Guglielmo: Acoustical bat detectors – people are working
on using ecolocation to id species
S. Gauthreaux: The different groups are cross-validating with
regard to linkages of data sets, e.g., banding data and radar data.
T. Smith: Analytical challenges to tracking individuals and
populations in space and time (brainstorming session)
(SEE
POWERPOINT)
Combine data from intrinsic and extrinsic markers
Using bioclimactic and remote sensing data to examine and
predict current and future distributions under land use and climate change
J. Smith: Would add mechanistic models for predicting
distribution and migration patterns – complements remote sensing models – may
use same data strings but it is a different way of looking at it.
T. Smith: Integrate
demographic data and connectivity data – are we at a point where we can start
thinking about that? There have been a couple of important papers – is it an
important area for MIGRATE.
D. Winkler: Very important to think about demography and
movement; it is part of the question about how are birds doing (including mortality)
at points in the annual cycle and in places. Martin Wikelski is proposing
something called MoveBank – building a national database of movement data to
include tools to correlate environmental data.
K. Hobson: Tibor Sczep and others in
T. Smith: Moller trying to correlate return rates w/
greenness indices – so database should integrate NVDI and movement data.
R. Norris: Not finding a correlation doesn’t mean that those
individuals didn’t come from those breeding grounds. Even if you know where
your breeding birds are wintering, it is over a very large area. The
connectivity data aren’t good enough to know which region the birds came from –
so lack of correlation doesn’t have meaning.
T. Smith: So can you validate distribution models by
correlating environmental data to generate predictive map and then going to
ground truth that map.
K. Hobson: All the correlation does is narrow down the
potential wintering site – you have to use other info and other techniques to
pinpoint it.
R. Norris: Isotope analysis and other data show mixing. The
premise of clear connectivity may be faulty – and the levels of mixing vary. He
and Caz have been looking at different models of connectivity.
T. Smith: Can the bioclimactic or remote sensing variable
predict that there should be mixing based on the habitat?
You need very large datasets to validate the models –
observational datasets tend to be very large, such as banding datasets –
connectivity datasets may not be large enough
Difference between conceptual modeling and predictive
modeling and they are rarely compared – should be used together – will never
have enough data for the conceptual models – conceptual models require
significant parameters and these models may benefit from a hybrid approach with
predictive statistical models and vice versa.
K. Hobson: Stable Isotope Analysis and connectivity will
only work with only one isotope in exceptionally rare cases. It would have to
be a species with a very narrow latitudinal distribution. A deuterium map is
available, plant physiologists can come up with C and ? maps and when you overlay the three
isotopes, the solution space for a given species is very much reduced.
T. Smith: Overlaying genetics and isotopes is not
straight-forward.
K. Hobson: He would recommend turning both into probability
estimates.
T. Smith: Theoretician Tom ? said genetic data is 0-1 whereas isotopic is
more continuous but as far as he knows it hasn’t been tried yet.
R. Norris: Do we need new analytical techniques or do
existing techniques suffice? Or is it just that they are new to us?
M. Wunder: There is a
difference in saying that you want to increase precision of the distribution
assignment vs. capturing the processes that generate error in the assignment. Rather
than trying to increase sample size to increase precision, try to reduce the
sources of error. Right now we can assign probabilities to distribution
assignments. We need much more mechanistic assessment before we can use
off-the-shelf models.
J. Kelly: How would a network of people resolve some of
these issues?
S. Haig: A website for people to post analytical tools and
how they’ve worked, e.g., combining isotopes and genetics.
T. Smith: Perhaps at next meeting we should bring in
engineers to talk about new technologies- maybe we should also bring population
geneticists and statisticians
There are huge gaps in sampling in the breeding regions –
hard to know what to do in those cases – can you interpolate across a region? Interpolating genetic data is very difficult,
there are no point data, but differences between points. There are some genetic
maps of allele distribution, but hard to superimpose on map of morphological
character states. Maybe model species would be useful here to address the
sampling needs?
T. Kunz: There are computer engineers who have developed
algorithms for combining databases on different spatial and temporal scales –
would be useful to have someone like this at next meeting – help determine what
data are needed to fill in these gaps – perhaps there is a model species for
which we already have good data with few gaps
SESSION IV:
ANALYTICAL CHALLENGES – BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER
J. Kelly: Returning to four basic questions: what are
primary analytical challenges?
S. Mabey – data
integration is one of main challenges, data standards or conversion standards
may be needed and there may be other aspects to this problem.
R. Norris: Biggest challenge is sampling. If we could get the
data, the tools are already there. We
could have better isotope base maps, better genetic maps – and once we do, the
integration can be done and there are already people who can do it and can help
make it happen.
T. Smith: They’ve been collecting feather and genetic
samples at UCLA – can they network with others who are doing that and share
data?
R.
Norris: Tom’s group wrote paper calling for feather sampling – what was
response? <Smith, T., P. Marra, M. Webster,
I. Lovette, H. L. Gibbs, R.Holmes, K. Hobson,
and S. Rohwer. 2003. A call for feather
sampling. Auk 120:218-221>.
T. Smith: Museum people didn’t like idea that they weren’t
collecting whole specimens.
S. Bearhop: Variation in study methodology is also a problem
T. Smith: AFLP data are lab-specific but gene sequences can
go into GenBank
D. Winkler: Need to discuss data needs and standardization
but there is already much available that we are not using such as satellite
imagery, remote sensing, micrometeorological info, data tracks of locations of
animals. We need data mining people or whoever the kind of people are who know
how to do this
T. Smith: Craig Venter and Larry Smarr – a computer
scientist - grappled with this problem
with genetic data. They are interested in what is going on at UCLA and how they
can expand their database to include data on species other than plankton and they have $30 million from the Moore
Foundation.
D. Winkler: Cornell has a data mining group too. We need to
figure out what kind of people we need to bring in.
R. Diehl: It is informatics and there are people with
expertise in that area.
K. Larson: Millions of birds have been banded but many
groups have virtually no capacity to analyze. There are few papers published
with rigorous statistical analysis. MIGRATE could bring these tools to the bird
observatories. Also, we need to talk to the people who band birds about feather
protocols and need to take feather samples.
T. Smith: So maybe his group should develop a protocol?
K. Larson: That would increase the sampling effort
F. Spina: They had workshop before start of banding season –
for ornithologists, statisticians – to decide how to optimize data taken in
banding operations. To discuss why are we taking one measurement or another,
and what information can be derived from these measurements. This resulted in a
manual of protocols which has helped to standardize data collection in
T. Smith: But many banding stations have been taking data
for decades and never gets uploaded into a database that others can use.
C. Guglielmo: Are there data ownership issues? Some places
feel like they will analyze it someday – they plan to hire quantitative
biologist who can go through them.
K. Larson: But if there is a funded proposal to data mine,
they may be willing to contribute.
T. Smith: Ownership issues are serious and need to be considered.
F. Spina: They have a large repository EURING database and researchers
can apply to use it. They have ways to
be sure that the data are not misused.
We need to work towards a success story – find a scenario
where the information is integrated and show how it can work.
J. Kelly: If we are willing to contribute to a sampling
effort for a question that all want to answer, it could lead to a success story.
But if the existing tools are not adequate, then you can’t answer the question
– work out the challenges on one species or one system
K. Hobson: Banding data is from birds in transit so you
don’t need a large number of variables for each point where the bird is
captured. We should come up with the set of variables that are actually needed
to answer a certain question – for instance, weather data.
S. Skagen: When you have important known sites, that would
not be chosen randomly, but there are other places in the landscape that you
don’t usually sample, you can use dual-frame sampling to combine data from
nonrandom and random sites – allows you to address biases emanating from site
selection.
M. Wunder: the challenges depend on whether you are trying
to describe or predict – to describe patterns then we just need someone who
knows how to do this, but predictability is a different issue and without a
mechanistic understanding prediction can’t be done no matter how much data or
tools.
T. Smith: Does MIGRATE need to be engaged in predictive analysis?
S. Gauthreaux: We need to also be able to predict short term
trends such as migration because these are extremely valuable for use in
conservation/management applications. You need to know patterns before you can
do predictions.
C. Taylor: A mechanistic model can describe a pattern –
model the process you think is going on and use the data to validate that model.
Different data sources can be combined
in a mechanistic model and expertise within the network can be used to test the
model – these models could be improved if people with different expertise were
to work together.
R. Norris: If it can work for a couple of species then there
is groundwork for applying to others – sets the standard for how to do it.
C. Guglielmo: Do the banding datasets already have
sufficient data? Combine with archived weather info, radar info, etc. You can
get things like number of birds over landscape over period of time. If you ask
for data for only a couple of species, data owners may be willing to share it.
If you then get the genetic and isotopic data for those same species, you can
try to add those.
J. Smith: There are weather data for at least 20 years, plus climatic models, weather models that are retrospective, not predictive. If MIGRATE is intended to be an enable of this kind of work, then the discussion among people with different capabilities is already starting people thinking about how this can be done.
J. Kelly: Return to the “big questions” in bird migration to
consider how MIGRATE collaborations might apply different kindsd of existing
data to these question:
1 - Population
dynamics (ecological, conservation perspectives)
2- Individual fitness
3- Evolution of
behavior in migration – plasticity v. constraints (evolutionary history) and
how they respond over ecological timeframes to changes
4- Interaction w/
environment (habitat, landscape, atmospheric)
K. Hobson: There are good datasets for certain species e.g.,
for Yellow Warbler – genetic and
isotopic – better to start there than to go out and collect new data.
D. Winkler: It would be good to have someone take existing
data and relate those to meteorological data and other data and see what
problems arise and how to resolve them. MIGRATE can be sure to disseminate info
about these analytical techniques that everyone can access
J. Kelly: MIGRATE can be resource that has a set of case
studies – not an all inclusive bioinformatics teaching tool.
D. Winkler: Plus software that anyone writes.
T. Smith: So we need to think carefully about a web-based
tool that MIGRATE can build that facilitates these cross-dataset analyses.
J. Kelly: Or list analytical needs and anyone who wants to
work on it can do so – perhaps through list of published papers that already
have analysis of one kind of data and then someone else can try to add a second
layer of data to it.
J. Kelly: Think of analytical challenges for your own research program and e-mail to migrate@ou.edu.
SATURDAY March 10
SESSION V: MIGRATE
INFRASTRUCTURE
COMMITTEES
Discussion
J. Smith: We need an international committee because birds
cross international borders, and because we are an international group – this
will keep us from being North-American centric.
J. Kelly: Or make each of the committees international in
composition.
F. Spina: Have each committee tasked with how their work can
reach across borders.
K. Thorup: What is NSF’s view on international activity?
Could a meeting be held outside the
J. Kelly: They can pay to have a conference in
S. Mabey: This is a limitation for student training and
exchange visits – they can cover per diems but not stipends.
J. Smith: It would be ideal to have joint funding from an
entity in
D. Winkler: He’s on another RCN and there is a partner grant
from the European Science Foundation – so maybe
S. Mabey: To leverage migrate funding, perhaps a separate
committee or working group is needed.
All: Let the steering committee take care of it.
D. Winkler: Would lab visits and training courses all come
under the education committee?
S. Mabey: The education committee is undergrad and grad
courses or units and training is lab visits/exchanges, which would also include
postdocs.
D. Robinson: Might also have a finance committee composed of
the co-PIs to keep track of how much is being requested and granted.
J. Kelly: The steering committee can decide what will be
funded.
K. Hobson: So where does research coordination fit among
these committees?
J. Kelly: These would be self-directed groups of people who
want to work together and they just need to let MIGRATE know what they are
doing and MIGRATE will promote what they are doing – there won’t be any MIGRATE
input/rules as to what those proposals will look like or should be about.
S. Mabey: As an example, the training committee might set up
a short course at a field site for capturing and handling birds and a session
in a lab to learn biochem techniques, mapping, etc – and the whole thing would
be called the MIGRATE training course – the question is who comes to the
course, who sets the criteria for eligibility and who among those who are
eligible will be selected if there are more eligible applicants than can be
funded? Process – what applications need to ask, who reviews them, what are the
selection criteria – would be up to the committee. Another task is to increase
connections, not just keep the projects for a limited number of people so how
to find, choose those connections or figure out what connections are needed –
same is true for citizen science. We also need to decide which products will be
covered in a given year, e.g., travel for a working group, page charges for a
review paper – there has to be a structure for making those decisions.
K. Hobson: Should we ID those groups now?
J. Kelly: maybe steering committee could handle this.
J. Smith: The steering committee should have a broad view.
We might need executive committee to help make decisions more rapidly.
D. Winkler: Start with the fewest number of committees
possible and if you need more, create them later.
J. Kelly: It would be helpful to list existing
collaborations.
J. Smith: And that kind of thing should be sent to NSF
program manager
D. Winkler: He’s working on a manuscript on remote sensing
with S. Gauthreaux, R. Diehl, F. Spina, M. Wunder.
S. Gauthreaux: Collect the list of collaborations by e-mail.
D. Winkler: Just copy steering committee whenever a
collaboration is born
S. Mabey: Use MIGRATE@ou.edu
– that doesn’t go to a listserv – it is just monitored by J. Kelly and S. Mabey.
Speaker?:
We need a research coordination committee. Don’t stovepipe – try to be sure
that groups are interdisciplinary and cross-pollinate. The steering committee
needs to keep an eye on this.
I. Bisson: Determine what labs are in this group and what
they can offer.
Speaker?:
Duration of committee membership – two years may be optimal, staggered so that
the first year, half are appointed for only one year
C. Taylor: Will there be other annual meetings?
S. Mabey: Yes, 5 annual meetings are covered by the proposal
and the will be organized by the steering committee.
Committee breakouts
Steering committee will meet later
Five people for each committee, and one person from each
will sit on steering committee
Data standards (to be named Standards and Protocols)
Report
We need to be able to work across datasets and data types. How
to collect and record data so that MIGRATE datasets can be used together; examples
include banding data standards, specimen collection standards. Can also include
protocols.
J. Sharmoun-Baranes: The first question is how much MIGRATE
wants to push for standards and how willing people are to accept MIGRATE
standards.
C. Taylor: The committee should not make the standards but
find out how to make standards, how to get others involved who can make them.
Report:
- Better name – standards and protocols
- Banders, genetics, isotopes, and radar people are in group
- Not fully representative of all kinds of tracking
- There are already lots of small projects
- This committee should be oriented towards the larger
collaborative efforts
- Info that the committee generates – whether pointing to a
methods paper, or other – should start out on the MIGRATE website by pointing
out what already exists and by identifying gaps
- Crucial step is development of metadata standards
- Organize a North American-wide calibration meeting similar
to that held by EURING – very experienced ringers from all over Europe worked
together in the field and compared their protocols for collecting and recording
data and determined which were the best methods; this could be a MIGRATE
initiative or collaborative with North American Banding Council
- British NGO Porzana.co.uk manufactures bands and use of
single source such as this would resolve problem of coordinating numbers on
unique markers – MIGRATE could recommend to USBBL that we purchase our bands
from Porzana and provide free south of the border.
- Data storage and management – how to accommodate the data
that are generated, using networks such as Avian Knowledge Network, which can
take the kinds of data that are generated in migration studies or should be
able to do so soon.
- The info can sit on a MIGRATE website and later moved to
the website of another organization.
Members:
D. Robinson* chair
K. Larson
C. Belser
S. Gauthreaux
J. Buler
K. Hobson
D. Irwin
J. Shamoun-Baranes
T. Smith
F. Spina
L.Wassenaar
G. Bowen
Discussion
S. Skagen: Should standards include repository for habitat
data?
K. Larson: This has been discussed by Cornell’s Avian Knowledge
Network (AKN) but this isn’t the priority – they are looking at sightings/point
data.
D. Winkler: He doesn’t know the details; MIGRATE could make
recommendations to AKN about what the dataset should look like – they probably
aren’t ready to jump into it right now.
J. Smith: The value of geolocation data could be augmented
if you could add physical attributes from surface and data from NASA, Canadian
Radarsat, ESA, etc.
Education Committee
J. Kelly
Tony Celis
J. Deppe
S. Haig
K. Paxton
D. Winkler
J. Smith
T. Kunz
S. Mabey
R. Norris
S. Haig and R. Norris volunteered to serve on Steering
Committee
- AOU has been interested in setting up courses in
- Also coordinate with meetings in
- Some universities will help fund students.
- Get USFWS $$ to develop courses taught at NCTC.
- WildLife without Borders (Herb Raphael’s grant program at
USFWS) emphasizes training.
- Smithsonian Conservation and
- National Sciences and Engineering Research Council of
Canada – Canadian sister course
- Home institution support for the students?
- Ducks Unlimited.
- Regular workshop at a particular society meeting every year
- Web hosting of course material
- Distance ed course for credit?
- Having sponsored symposia or tag ons for student participation
- Share course with Sister Shorebird folks to get this
material out to high school and grade school (curriculum development for
teachers; courses for teachers)
First job: outline the course over the next couple of months
(see below)
Second job: contact Thomas Alerstam re: migration course at
< http://orn-lab.ekol.lu.se/birdmigration/index.php?cat=eomp>
– can we sponsor students to attend that course; is he interested in expanding
it; how might we help increase chances that it would be offered more often
Third job: look for extra $$ to make the program go farther
Fourth job: Plan course for Spring 2008 or Fall 2008
associated with AOU in
Potential course outline -
- Build in multilingual capacity from the beginning
- Molecular Genetics and Tracking – introduce students to
the different techniques so that they become conversant and have some vision of
what is possible – S. Haig
- Isotopes and Tracking – J. Kelly
- Field Techniques in Migration – J. Deppe & S. Mabey
- Physiology – C. Guglielmo
- Conservation - S. Mabey
- Demographic modeling -- R. Norris
- Tags – D. Winkler
- Bioacoustics – J. Deppe and A. Celis
Potential sites - Course needs to be mobile
Ventotene,
Italy
Western
Ontario
Veracruz
Punta
Arasa, Argentina
Johnson’s Bayou
Port Aransas
Eilat
Possibly integrate bird conservation organizations
To recruit students – where to advertise to get right
audiences, target diversity
Recruit from south of
Recruit from large cities
Recruit from
Recruit from
Evaluating Applications
Application questions
Personal statement
Letters of recommendation
First year cohort – nominated students from MIGRATE
participants
Discussion
E.Paul: NSF Pan American Advanced Studies Institute would be
good source of funding
C. Taylor: Could tie into shorebird festivals (Godwit Days)
Training committee
1 year members:
C. Taylor
M. Bowen
A. Mata
2 year members:
K. Thorup
S. Skagen
F. Moore
Goal: Organize workshops, lab exchanges, small group
training for professionals in migration research by:
1. Putting out calls for proposals.
2. Prioritize/evaluate proposals.
3. Manage budget for such activities
Training possibilities:
Priorities:
Protocol:
Discussion
Whatever is planned has to go to Steering Committee first,
so Steering Committee can allocate the funds.
J. Kelly: Committees have authority to decide priorities and
choose proposals, the only constraint from the Steering Committee is the
budget.
J. Smith: Should set the budget first before committee does
all the work.
D. Winkler: Does “professional” include grad students? Answer
– yes.
Citizen science and outreach
Members:
E.
Kirsch
I. Bissons
J. Parrite
S. Bearhop
R. Diehl
Report
Citizen
science ideas considered include:
- Arrays of
acoustic monitoring stations associated with schools/organisations
- webcam
type microphones, what birds flew over last night
- Data
standards…… how is it collected?
- Do
scientists want this kind of information?
MIGRATE
could…
- Raise awareness
- Promotion
- facilitate
it through the group (people from all over)
- Create data
standards/protocols for citizen science project.
Possible citizen
science projects include…
Distributed
computing: e.g. SETI
- Targeted
ID of birds from radar, meteorologists (their noise is our signal).
- Less
certain, in the future, lots of collected acoustic data, algorithms in
development
- Data
washing/mining
- Large
computational problems may lend themselves to this kind of approaches
Migration
watch (
- Web
site…. Arrival dates, species date location, webform and automated responses
(engenders stake holding)
Co-ordinating
with feederwatch
- Satellite
tracking projects, maps
(D. Winkler
– could be worked thru E-bird where birders submit their lists)
- Cornell
be the hub (is it in planning). Responses….maps etc
- Sponsoring
animals etc.
- Scientific
work on migration alongside citizen participation.
(D. Winkler-
Wikelski has idea of MoveBank to accept these data; other models from monarch
butterflies)
Banding
networks
- MAPS model, talk to the Canadians. What
resources are required to initiate these? Can MIGRATE support this?
- Training
committee. State agencies co-ordinate these? Parks and refuges (in the first
instance).
-
Organisation for Tropical Research… local participation????
Discussion
Who will do
website, what should be on it?
J. Kelly, S.
Mabey: There is some money in the proposal for a website.
D. Winkler:
It gets expensive fast.
J. Smith –
could use websites of other organizations.
Possible
outreach projects include…
Radar
- Bird
radar maps on the weather channel/national and local, during periods of
calm/inactive weather…..tends to be good conditions for migrants. Some success
in this area already
Reaches
non-interest groups!!
S.
Gauthreaux – Weather Channel wants them to bring sponsors for this activity.
He’s also talked to the broadcast bureaus, who are more interested in the
audience share and are afraid that they will lose audience if they air this
kind of thing.
Linking
schools/communities across flyways
- Pick a
sentinel migrant(s), and identifying schools/communities across the entire flyway. Basis for cultural exchanges,
school projects
- How can
MIGRATE help? Researchers working in different parts of flyway, most of us have
some links. Promotion, raising awareness LOGO. Outreach infrastructure? NGOs
Birds in the
hand
- banding
stations (Training)
-
- Fieldwork
in winter/summer
- Birding
festivals.
- How can
MIGRATE help? As above – raise awareness, promote, facilitate
Public Talks
- To raise
profile of migratory birds and MIGRATE
- NSF GK-12
MIGRATE to advocate funding of graduate students for training of science
teachers
Popular
Articles
- Migration
naturally lends itself to this kind of thing, pictures, maps (no explanation
required)
Discussion
S. Skagen –
should there be a list of the talks everyone gives
K. Larson –
so there could be canned talks/ppts that grad students and others could use
J. Kelly –
there is $$ for citizen science but it is limited and the committee should
choose a project that is MIGRATE-branded; other collaborations are fine but
there should be a specific MIGRATE vehicle
R. Diehl –
they haven’t selected any one of these ideas
K. Larson –
some of these ideas can be combined
R. Diehl –
at least have a repository of slides that people can draw from
T. Smith –
Fogarty Center (NIEHS) gave them $$ to do banding workshop in
S.
Gauthreaux – a lot of the ideas coming out today can be tied together under the
original goals that were discussed on the first day – such as working through a
series of bird observatories to get better data, do education, and outreach
D. Winkler
– would like to see if there are people interested in collaborating around Barn
Swallow since they are pan –North America and very visible in Mexico and South
America too
A. Jahn –
looking for funding for austral migration and one of the ideas that would like
to do is get computers to Latin America – set up something similar to Birder’s
Exchange – take equipment to schools, etc and they can be set up to access
MIGRATE websites
D. Winkler
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SUNDAY 11
MAY
Please
e-mail to migrate@ou.edu lists of outcomes,
products, and new collaborations developed while here – describe generally
Look at the
MIGRATE CD and if there are additional docs to add to the folders send to migrate@ou.edu – could be pdf of a poster or a
paper or anything else – the folders will be posted online
S. Bearhop:
Just start sending anything on migration that comes out; can do a folder for
recent literature.
Meeting
notes will be distributed after compiled and will also be posted
G. Bowen:
Would like website password-protected for copyrighted material or a section
within the website for copyrighted material.
D. Winkler:
Don’t send anything you don’t have copyright to.